Zajímavosti, drby a klepy ze světů Davida Webera

[Johnak]

Jo, to jsem cetl. Taky me to prekvapilo. (sam se povazuji za rychleho pisatele, ale nedokazu psat rychle prilis dlouho - mozek rukam nestaci. )

Dotaz trapneho neznalka: Co je "linotype"? Z tohohle: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linotype_machine Moc moudrej nejsem. I kdyz se priznam, ze jsem to cely necetl :-)

[Johnak]

*cte dal* Aha, to je neco jako knihtisk, ale rychlejsi. :-)

[Muphrid]

Jo, to jsem cetl. Taky me to prekvapilo. (sam se povazuji za rychleho pisatele, ale nedokazu psat rychle prilis dlouho - mozek rukam nestaci. )

Dotaz trapneho neznalka: Co je "linotype"? Z tohohle: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linotype_machine Moc moudrej nejsem. I kdyz se priznam, ze jsem to cely necetl :-)

Jop, je to sázecí stroj, který odlévá celé řádky namísto jednotlivých písmen. Podrobnější info zde.

[Muphrid]

Na Baru někdo plácnul texty písniček z HH. Nelekněte se azbuky v těle stránky, podstatné jsou samotné texty, které jsou v angličtině (ty podivné znaky, které se tam zobrazují jako "�" jsou samozřejmě apostrofy ). Hned první píseň popisuje velmi květnatě (z pohledu Haveňanů) události ze Stanice Bazilišek . Chtělo by to k tomu akordy a někoho kdo vládne kytarou...

TADY jest odkaz.

edit:
Teď jsem si všiml, že ten předchozí odkaz je až na třetí (!) stranu onoho fóra, takže TADY je ještě odkaz na první.

[Dalin]

Tak podle vyjádření Erica Flinta od zítřka začíná pracovat na pokračování Koruny otroků:

Subject: Re: Crown of Slaves Two
Group: Mutter of Demons
Author: ericflint
Date: Wed, 02 Jul 2008 06:51:35 GMT
Local: Wed, 02 Jul 2008 02:51:35 -0400


I'm starting to work on it tomorrow.

Eric

On Fri, 27 Jun 2008 11:11:20 GMT jessara40k wrote:

If this has already been asked and answered I apologise, but did Eric and David manage to find time in their schedules when they could work together on Crown of Slaves Two, and if so are there any hints about it they'd care to give out?

[twombly]

This is from Baen.com and from David Weber himself:

***

David Weber on an Honor Harrington Mini-Series

Someone told me you guys were discussing this topic(s), so I thought I'd drop in.

First, don't EVEN get me started on ST. We don'r have that much time or bandwidth.

On the HH front, however, what's actually being contemplated is a regular series, not a mini-series.

I've seen the first draft of the proposed 2-hour pilot, and while I have some minor problems with it, I am quite impressed overall. The senior script-writer show-runner of the crew working on this project (on spec, at this point) is a Royal Navy veteran with experience as both a watch officer and with naval intelligence, which is both a good thing and a bad thing. (In the first draft of the script, he was busy using wet-navy helm orders for maneuvers under thrusters at space stations. He knew they were wrong, but he also knew that he could write them in a coherent fashion and planned on cleaning them up later.)

There is enough interest in the project that said show runner is flying down to Australia to discuss money and possible filming locations. Where we go from here and/or how quickly we do so is in the laps of the gods.

One thing. I have not attempted to retain dictatorial control of the (possible) series for two main reasons: (1) script writing is not what I do for a living and is not my area of expertise, and (2) they are thinking in terms of a 3-5 season story arc to cover the novels from OBS to EoH, and if I got deeply involved in making sure they did all of them perfectly according to the series, I wouldn't get any new novels done during that time frame. Since I am planning at least 9 more in the HH story line plus a spin-off series (which I think of as the "Saganami Island" series which will focus on certain of Honor's Academy students and their careers and which should also go to at least 8 or 9 books), the time sink facets of the operation would simply make my detailed, hands-on involvement in the scripts themselves impractical.

Having said that, the one point I did insist upon was that if I DID have any concerns, their senior writers would be contractually required to respond to my concerns in writing. This will not compel them to do things my way, but it will (hopefully) at least compel them to think seriously about what I'm saying rather than just blowing it off. Also, the exact degree of supervision and visits to the set on my part which might be involved remains to be settled.

I suppose I ought to say right up front that I do not expect any eventual series to be an exact rendering of my view of HH and her universe. For one thing, I am more concerned with an actress who can portray Honor's personality and — especially — her command style than I am with someone who looks like she is described in the books. Mind you, I would NOT be happy if they cast a blue-eyed blonde in the role, but how many female 6'2" Eurasian martial artists who can also act AND project her command style are there?

The thing that I like best about the pilot script version I've seen so far is that entire blocks of dialogue are lifted directly out of the book at critical points in the development of relationships between people like Honor, McKeon, Dominica Santos, etc. Harkness' role is punched up somewhat, since they intend to make him a more prominent character in the earlier books, and while I find the sudden emergence of a decidedly lower class British accent on his part a bit unsettling, it actually grows on one with time.

I don't know whether or not I'm at liberty at this point to tell you who all is involved in this, but I can tell you that at least one individual had a series-long association with B5, which may also give you some hope for where everything is/may be headed.

As I say, at this point we don't know exactly how likely the series actually is to be produced, and things like this have a habit of taking a LOOOOONG time to gel (or not gel, as the case may be). We have had several expressions of interest from studios and cable channels, so that may be a good sign, but there's absolutely no way to predict the ultimate success or failure of the project.

Gotta go back and write some more,
David

Že bysme se jednoho dne dočkali? 

[Johnak]

Nerad vam kazim iluze, ale pokud se nemylim, tak tenhle prispevek je starej tak 5 let, takze to moc aktualni asi nebude :-) (mj. tam mluvi o chytane Shadows of Saganami serii, jejiz prvni dil vysel pred ctyrmi lety :-) )

[twombly]

Tak nic 
Vyhrabal jsem to na jednom fóru kde to někdo nadhodil tak měsíc zpátky, tak jsem myslel že to bude aktuální.

[Muphrid]

Takže tu máme další střípky informací přímo od MWW. Na autogramiádě v San Diegu ho vyzpovídal fanoušek C. Kelsey a píše o tom zde:

Subject: AAR: MWW spoke to me in San Diego (I R Humbled)
Group: Honorverse
Author: C Kelsey
Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2008 03:27:08 GMT
Local: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 23:27:08 -0400

Ve stručnosti:

- napsal krátkou povídku, která vyjde ve sbírce od George RR Martina (mimozemšťané útočící na Zemi dostanou lekci z toho co se stane, když narazí na civilizaci třídy 2 a hlavně na jistou historickou osobnost z Valašska (? - Wallachi. Napadá někoho koho tím může myslet?))

- po BHD má být ještě pět dalších knih ze série Safehold

- z Honorverse jich má být také hodně (Honor nezemře, ale dostaneme spoustu nových postranních postav. Alžběta není bláznivá.)

- další dvě knihy ze série Bahzell Bahnakson

- dalších pět ze série Prince Rogers

- další dvě ze série Mutineers Moon (David není spokojený s momentálním cliffhangerem)

- před měsícem byla dokončena jednání ohledně Filmu a Intelligence Reviews k němu budou použity jako technická bible. Ale prý jde o "Hollyweird" a nyní jsme opět ve fázi "země zapomnění"...

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No takže se určitě máme na co těšit. Jen nechápu, kde na to chce MWW vzít čas... Počítám-li dobře, tak to má být 14 knih plus minimálně pět z Honorverse, řekněme tedy cca 20-25 knih. Jestli na jednu potřebuje 4-5 měsíců, pak by mu to při 25 knihách a pěti měsících zabralo deset a půl roku. V případě 20 knih a 4 měsíců by to bylo něco málo přes 6,5 roku...

[twombly]

yummy yummy yumm yumm....

[Muphrid]

yummy yummy yumm yumm....

velice trefně řečeno

[Muphrid]

Takže ještě upřesnění informací (a přidání několika nových), které jsem vydoloval na Baru (český výtah udělám hned jak bude víc času):

Subject: SD book signing, my own notes
Group: Honorverse
Author: ericth
Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2008 21:10:15 GMT
Local: Wed, 30 Jul 2008 17:10:15 -0400

I realized a couple of details may be at variance from the other reports of the signing but we'll just have to see.

Notes from the San Diego book signing:

As I'm sure will be shocking news to bar readers, DW admitted that he has too many irons in the fire and too many books to write.  In addition to honorverse books, he has 4 Prince Roger under contract, I think 5 Multiverse, 2 Bahzell, he just wrote a novella unrelated to anything else (although it had echoes of the Excalibur Alternative).  Given how busy he is, he somewhat regrets publishing the Multiverse books (I assume he means "at this time") due to the fact that he just cant write fast enough to turn in books in all of the series fast enough to avoid major delays between books.  Also, the nature of the his collaborative process is such that both authors need to be initmately invloved with each book, so no throwing a manuscript over the wall to the less busy partner.

Some interesting other tidbits:
Honorverse:

By the end of this year Baen will have three Honorverse manuscripts turned in. Storm from the Shadows, and the next Honor (tentative title Mission of Honor) and CoS novels.  Storm comes out March 09 but is do for some rewriting to restructure certain plot elements. The deadline for the changes is Sept 1 so they can make it into the eARC, which tells us approximately when it will be avaialble.

There was a bit of dialogue with the audience about how much of a book to snippet and how quickly.  Apparently in play are issues related to getting folks interested enough to buy the book, satisfying the cravings of bar flies who want it NOW, and how long before publication to start and how big to make each snippet.  BRSA was unusual in the length of delay between script turn in and publication.  If I recall, there were 60 or 70 SoS snippets before the book but approx 115 BRSA snippets, a difference of 15 weeks at 3 snippets/week.  We didnt really resolve anything and I think he was just soliciting feedback.  There has already been some Bar discussion on this.

Agamemnons are the all up hollow core design like Medusa-Bs are.  Recall that Medusa-As are only hollow for 30% of their length (not sure about Invictuses) whereas Medusa-Bs and Aggys are hollow for about 70% of their length (posted on the Bar a while back).  That's part of why honor muses about the Aggys being somewhat squishy with respect to taking battle damage.

The 12 second delay in between patterns of pods has to do with a) the cycle time on the launch rails and b) the time it takes a launched pod to clear the wedge.  I think he was referring to Aggys at this point but they also have more launchers than previoiusly mentioned so they can dump lots of pods real fast if needed.

One of the reasons that the honorverse has branched out into three separate series is to enable more characters to be "viewpoint characters" and flesh them out.  Part of this is a necessity.  Honor is now too senior to "go on death rides" and you have to have someone on the scene to do them.  Multiple stories allows for a more thorough treatment of each plot thread, fewer infodump passages in the main-stem honor novels, and more viewpoint characters.  More viewpoint characters allows him to flesh them out as well as provide a greater pool of characters at the appropriate seniority levels to go on death rides or other things he needs someone to do.

Apparently, in Mission of Honor, Honor continues her growth in realizing who she is and becomes the closest thing to a peer Elizbeth really has.  Remember, Honor is a head of state in her own right as a steadholder, not merely a subordinate. That Mission of Honor at least starts out trying to negotiate an end to the war is apparently largely due to Honor's efforts.

Safehold:
It was a deliberate author's decision to severely limit how much Nimue uses the advanced tech she has access to.  Part of it is that she's not ruthless enough to slaughter defensless opponents in job lots.  But the major part is it would be too much Deus Ex Machina which makes for boring stories.

On the ending: Yes, BRSA does end in a minor cliffhanger, more of an unresolved point. It's a bit less episodic than many of his other novels.  But, since the manuscript for BHD was turned in barely two weeks after that of BRSA he felt that offset things a bit.  Publisher's scheduling is another matter however....

BHD is likely to be delayed "2 or 3 months" in his estimate, from the publication date of Storm from the Shadows to avoid cannibalizing sales.

And Nimue does indeed find a way to deal with the Rakurai system. She..
<POUND POUND POUND> OPEN THE DOOR! THIS IS THE NON-DISCLOSURE AGREEMENT POLICE!
oh, crap, they got here faster than I anticipated. Anyway, how it works is...
<CRASH> sound of boots on stairs.
s <Sound of a struggle>he
<Sound of breaking furniture>
manages to....

Subject: Re: SD book signing, my own notes
Group: Honorverse
Author: C Kelsey
Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 02:16:58 GMT
Local: Wed, 30 Jul 2008 22:16:58 -0400

And neither of us mentioned DW saying "to those who believe Mesa does not represent a credible threat to the Star Empire of Manticor... I say HA!!!!  They do..."  I do believe there was some "tum te tum tum tuuuummm" music in the background as well.  :-D

[twombly]

Tak mě napadlo zapátrat zase po nějakym infu o dalších hračičkách ze světa honorverse a napadlo mě zaútočit přímo na hlavní zdroje informací.
Na devianartu jsem našel profil Thomase Marroneho, kterej jak jistě víte má prsty ve všech grafickejch podobách pinas, uniforem a krom 3D modelů lodí samotnejch (v těch má prsty Charles Oines) vlastně v celym obsahu Jayne's.

Tak jsem mu zaslal poděkování za jeho artwork pro Jayne's, nadhodil jsem fotku mojí uniformy (ano, jsem ješitnost sama, ale když jsem jedinej s mariňáckou uniformou na týhle planetě, tak se to musí využít ), prohodil pár slov o našem milém HMS Phantomu a položil pár otázek o tom jak to vypadá s produkcí Jayne's pro Slezsko, Andermany a Grayson.

Odpověď Marroneho je následující:

Hello Stanislav,
I was very excited to get your e-mail, thanks so much for getting in touch with me! Your uniform is fantastic! I would love to see some detail photos of the beret patch and anything else you feel like showing off. Again, great job! I passed your e-mail and photo along to the producers and writers at Ad Astra and they were all very impressed.

Does your group have a Web site? I would be interested in checking it out if so.

I have some more art on my DeviantArt account that your group may be interested in, if you haven't seen it already. Check it out here: http://thomasthecat.deviantart.com/gallery/#Honor-Harrinton

To answer your questions, right now we are working on the next ship book for the Saganami Island Tactical Simulator game; this will have game rules for the dreadnoughts and super dreadnoughts seen in Short Victorious War. Next up is our third Jaynes book, which will cover pirates and the Silesian Confederacy. The Jaynes 4 will be about the Grayson/Masadan navies before and soon after Honor of the Queen. The current plan is to then do Jaynes 5 on the Andermani Navy.

We're a small company working after hours on most of this stuff so it is going to take a while unfortunately. But that's the plan.

I hope you will keep in touch. I am really looking forward to seeing the other kinds of uniforms you guys are going to be making! And on a more personal note, my mother's father is of Czech ancestry...small world!

Thanks again for contacting me,
Thomas

Jak řekl, přehodil můj mail tvůrcům z Ad Astra Games a tudíž jsem společně s tímhle dostal mail od Kena Burnsidea:

    Mr. Cech:
     
    To answer the questions you posted - we've been waiting on approvals for the Silesian Confederacy Jaynes for over a year now.  David is VERY busy writing new books for the series, and we're trying to get everything ready for our next approval window.
     
    It would likely be Silesian, then Andermani, then Grayson in that order, but the real holdup is David.
     
    Nicely done on the Uniform.  We're batting around a "Uniform Reference Book" that will have expanded versions of Thomas' artwork, a good text descriptions of the uniforms and pattern images made by a costuming friend I know.
     
    May I put her in contact with you to see what she can glean from how you made your costume?

Takže shrnutí:
Čeká nás apgrejd do SITSka díky kterýmu se budem moct řezat v plnejch bojovejch stěnách a taky to, že plánujou Uniform Reference Book, což bude detailnější popis HH uniforem i s poznámkama a obrázkama od kostymérky. To je ta dobrá zpráva.

A teď ta špatná. Díky tomuhle projektu a díky tomu jak má Weber nabalenou práci na dalších deset let dopředu si na další Jayne's počkáme.
Ještě horší je zpráva, že Slezsko půjde první, teprv po něm Grayson a Masada kolem období "Čest Královny" (by mě teda zajímalo co tam chtěj hodit díky tomu mininámořnictvu co Grayson v tomhle období měl...) a ta nejhorší zpráva je že Andermani vyjdou jako POSLEDNÍ 

[Johnak]

Super. Gratuluji. :-)

[twombly]

Tak se mi povedlo zase něco vytáhnout z marroneho. Tentokrát ohledně plazmovky.

Hey Stanislav,
We actually have completed the design of the plasma rifle, it's just waiting for approval by David. But while it shares the scope with the pulse rifle (this was done on purpose so that the two weapons can swap parts in the field if necessary) the body is pretty different. The stock is very long and has intakes for air, as that air is the "ammo" which is super heated and vented out the front as plasma. In the front there is a large block that is composed of a set of radiators working in tandem to keep the weapon as cool as possible during combat so that the person using it doesn't end up being a crispy critter.

The heavy power pack, which is the same one used in the pulse rifle, is inserted at a 45 degree angle into a receiver just before the trigger.

There is a plasma carbine and a rifle. The plasma carbine is shorter and has a smaller radiator. The plasma rifle has a longer stock and uses two power packs to fire. Also, the rifle has an optional snap-on barrel that allows greater accuracy and power, as the barrel has more radiators running down its entire length which lets the weapon use more energy without harming the user. This is the long barrel you saw in the Jaynes book. As I said it can be detached and has a built in bipod mount.

Unfortunately I cannot send you this artwork as it has yet to be published, but hopefully you can get an idea of what it looks like from this description.

--Thomas

Překazil mi plány, hajzl  Plazmovka nebude, šetřim na pulzerovou karabinu